Obama and hope

I thought ChaliceChick was pretty amusing today when she said this – she remembers what it was like to be a Hillary supporter when

Obama was made of kittens and fairydust and was going to change politics forever and ever.

I try not to get too involved in politics since I live with Mr. Political Science who is involved enough with it for both of us, but I still thought this was funny. I think of my wise friend who is the benefactor of this blog when she was visiting last summer: she said, “If it was easy or even possible to be non-partisan and work together well with the Republicans, lots of people would have done it already. It isn’t like anyone hasn’t thought of that before.” Not that I don’t appreciate his efforts and the nice words he says, but it seems that this whole post-partisan change new world we-can-do-it is just a lot harder than he thought.

Not to be all anti-Obama, because I think he is just fine, just not nearly as good as he said he was going to be and everyone thought he would be, it does remind me of this cartoon which I find amusing.


Just some random thoughts on another rainy day….

9 Responses to Obama and hope

  1. Scott Wells says:

    I’m hard on President Obama — and for good reason — but let’s not forget that well into September and even October, it wasn’t at all clear who would win the U.S. presidency.

    I wanted to be sure McCain did not win. Then and now, I think Obama was a stronger campaigner than Clinton. Now that he’s the president it means that a different kind of political pressure must be asserted.

  2. Chalicechick says:

    Obama turned out to be a much stronger campaigner than I expected him to be. But I didn’t know how much of a campaigner he was until the Democratic Convention because against Clinton, he pretty much let his underlings do the dirty work and stayed above it all. (Thus Elizabeth’s cartoon and attractive package containing nothing it shows.)

    IMHO, that strategy would not have worked against McCain, and it would have worked a lot less well against Clinton had she not been so trusting of Mark Penn.

    But anyway, I was very wrong to underestimate Obama’s abilities when it came to traditional campaigns. He’s a lot better at regular politics that the enraptured lady on the couch would like to admit.

  3. Elizabeth says:

    I have deleted two comments on here. I am open to a range of comments and thoughts, but I happen to be a fan of Unitarian Universalism in many ways, and while I understand that some people are not, this blog is not a place to promote what I perceive to be a blanket criticism of the entire movement which I think does lots of good, despite its problems. I welcome thoughtful comments on this blog, but not promotion of one’s own vendettas or agendas against Unitarian Universalism as a whole.

  4. Bill Baar says:

    …everyone thought he would be…

    hmm.. I voted for him for US Senator once. Everyone has the real Obama moment. Mine was discovering the many year long relationship with Rezko. I think that would have taken “me” out of your everyone cohort based on timing…

    …Blagojevich’s trial starts next year in June. Wait for those 400 hours of audio tapes to start rolling out about all the deals and fundraisiong and the colorfull blunt language from some of the folks Illinois’s sent Washington.

    A lot of people are going to have Obama clarity moments then.. especially if this turns into a W shaped recession.

  5. Shaya says:

    I think there is something really positive about feeling good about Obama in itself. If people are behind him and positive whatever change he can actually make will be more effective than if people are totally cynical. I’d rather feel hopeful (perhaps with a sense of reality) about a president doing mediocre things than to be disparaging about a president doing mediocre things even if the outcome is the same.

  6. Elizabeth says:

    “I think there is something really positive about feeling good about Obama in itself. ”

    Shaya, dear, this is incredibly insightful. You are wise beyond your years, I tell you.

  7. jaybanks says:

    Who expected (too) much will be (or is) pretty dissatisified and I am not talking only about US citizens…

  8. Elizabeth says:

    Sorry, Robin, I had to block you because I simply do not have the time or energy to keep up with moderating your comments to take out things I find offensive or incorrect.

  9. ogre says:

    “if this turns into a W shaped recession”

    Well… it’s a W-shaped recession, regardless of the way the curve that describes it, eventually, proves to look.

    One votes hoping that a candidate will live up to expectations… which are, inevitably, dashed. But it’s mighty damned early still. Obama’s refused to rush and fall into the traps that Clinton did, and in the process he’s done a fine job of letting-helping-allowing the GOP to geld itself publicly. But let’s remember that Shrub was still vacationing his way to Sept. 11, and hadn’t even received the PDB that warned him that Al Qaeda was intent on attacking the U.S. at this stage of his first term.

    Politics can move quickly. Government very, very, very rarely does. And Obama got handed the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression as a welcome-to-office present.

    The preliminary assessment will end up being the 2010 elections–and that’s just barely now on the horizon, even for we political junkies…

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